Shelley Bottiaux
- 22 Jan 2005
First of all that "Man's Opinion" is a joke. Hopefully that's not his name on there. He's obviously not an entrepreneur and doesnt understand investment. She'd better take a long walk away from him fast before he "makes" her quit.
Mary Kay is a highly respected company and they teach us to operate with the highest of integrity. People are people and can't be monitored 24/7. There are going to be some that just dont do the right thing all the time. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
There is nothing out there like this and I love it. I've been with the company for 4 years. I teach other women how to earn good money from home so their families can come first. I teach them how to build strong customer bases, earn free cars and diamond rings and make great friends in the process. I make $3500 to $4500 a month, drive a free car working 20 to 25 hours a week. It doesnt take a rocket-scientist to figure out something is working here. My life is my own and not some corporations.
If anyone has products rotting in their basement, they are plain stupid!!! I meet women everyday that tell me they've been looking for a consultant and are happy to take my card and buy my products. There are people out there who want those products. Get off your butt and SELL THEM!!!
Go Mary Kay Ladies!!!!!
Shelley Bottiaux - 22 Jan 2005
AND, how Golden Rule is it to call other women STUPID on a public forum????? I think most of the insults and name calling on this site, as well as others, mostly come from the positive? side of MK.
Oh, and there are plenty of direct selling companies for people to choose from. MK is not exclusive.
Your view of 'some' in the company not doing right is very narrow in that Nationals promote massive recruiting and initial inventory orders...that trickles down to the directors who teach the same thing. There are those who sell, but there are those who buy their way and gain their way only by massive recruiting and initial inventory purchases from those beneath them. That's a fact, it's the majority of business in this business.
Laura Ryan - 26 Jan 2005
Can you please indicate which comment you're referring to? Thanks!
Eli Mantel - 26 Jan 2005
You said, "If anyone has products rotting in their basement, they are plain stupid!!!"
Well, thanks very much, I love being called stupid. Of course, my IQ scores might indicate otherwise (>130), and my former manager, at a job where I actually did make > $4,000/month take-home at my job thought I was pretty smart, but now I know better.
The fact that I was unable to make even $300/month selling Mary Kay had little to do with being stupid, but more to do with integrity. For the most part, I refused to lie or misrepresent myself in the way my sales directors tried to get me to do. And then it had just a TAD to do with market saturation (I knew many people who liked Mary Kay, and guess what - nearly all of them HAD a consultant they wouldn't leave - good for them.)
However, I must admit that it was truly a truly BONEHEADED move when... after taking hours and hours packing and listing all my stuff on the product return form, and fighting traffic (once making a wrong turn) just to get to the post office shortly after it closed on what was just about the last possible day for me to return & get my 90% on every item I enclosed, I was - well, stupid - to take the stuff back home and decide someone was trying to tell me something and I just didn't want to give up the possibility of ever becoming a consultant again. Never did I dream that because of that, I would have thousands of dollars of product I bought trying to "start a business" that would be not be tax deductable (still in inventory, and guess what, I'm not gonna sell them so they're personal use - not deductable.) At least if I could show (via sending back) that products were destroyed, any money I didn't get back would be deductable.
Hmm, well, I guess you may be right after all. Kinda stupid.
Rachel Suddeth - 27 Apr 2005
I'm sorry to tell you this, but how stupid is it to call others stupid on a public forum. Good for you that you can shlep cosmetics and bleep the Mary Kay party line. You sound more brainwashed than anything.
I couldn't believe some of your comments. I've only been a consultant for 3 weeks and just plain hate it! I will never like it! It is just being yet another obnoxious sales person at a department store cosmetics counter but instead I'm doing it at home.
Perhaps, I'm stupid for believing just one second the garbage my recruiter and sales director told me. Perhaps, it was stupid to listen and be convinced by my director to buy the $1,800 inventory.
Perhaps, when I did further analysis and discovered the level of endless calling, networking, warm chatting, etc. I would have had to do just to make 800-1,000 bucks a month I decided that it was in my best interests to do something better with my life. I'm just not that desperate.
Perhaps, Mary Kay should stop saying how easy it is to work your business when the real truth is that it isn't really your business. Not when you're really padding someone else's commission check. They'll probably get a cut of the profits from the inventory I bought.
The only regrets I have is that I'm too gullible to filter out all the smooth talking crap I've heard from MKers. I'm sorry, but if it seems too good to be true then it is.
I guess I'll be going back to my boring JOB, my boring LIFE and my boring FAMILY...all those things that Mary Kay really doesn't prize. If the company did they no longer do. Not from my perspective anyway.
Sincerely,
Erin B - 25 May 2005
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