I was out most of the day and Im back now Stephanie here - Laura apologies accepted thanks for understanding!!! I do agree with Laura when she says that some people are deceptive in their practices and it does need to stop so people wont have a bad taste in their mouth regarding these companies. MK really does have some good incentives though and women should know all of the facts. My hats go off to Wendy because she broke down everything she does and HOW she does it and she didnt put pie in the sky numbers up on the board and she is FULL TIME. Laura do you think they should show a high and a low check or what a regular consultant can make. Its a fine line and its hard to tell someone what they can make if they have 5 classes booked and 3 cancel and one class they sell 300 and another zero I mean I can see why you cant really tell someone what they can make in MK it fluctuates so much. In all fairness to the new consultant I guess she is going to have to just do it and see for herself. I have a friend who LOVES MK and does well with it and she has no qulams about the company I have another who wants nothing more to do with it. She had NO problem putting in a 3600.00 order she made 50,000 a year and had GOOD credit and a house. The reason she quit was because she felt that two classes a week was too much work and she had NO children and one husband who made 50,000 a year. She is now divorced he was a good man she said she was BORED with him..oh to be so lucky!!! He paid the bills and everything!! I couldnt believe that she thought two classes a week was too much work!! I have never heard that one before she didnt feel pressured into putting in that amount she is an accountant and she said she wanted her own business and she was working 40 hours no more no less. I honestly dont know how you can make the presentation for a direct sales company perfect because you are always going to have someone bad mouthing some company especially if they dont do well. None of this stuff is easy unless you are BUSY and have tons of appointments or as they say in MK activity level. The only thing I can see that would make it better for the directors like you said is a 4 month leeway (I know you said six) but I dont see that happening, and for them to say EARN a car and not drive free. But again most of these people when they get to that point know that they have to keep up a certain amount of production MK is not going to lease those cars for FREE. The company is going to do well they have been doing well this long I dont know why they would change anything. I know I have said this before but I was shocked they brought the Grand Prix production down to 8,000 wholesale I guess they wanted more directors HUH. I thought that was a good thing that they did most direct sales companies dont do things like that. I think
Jafra got rid of their car program the last I heard because enough people were not shooting for it. I heard (and I dont know the numbers) that their car program was harder than Mary Kay's and that is one of the reasons that they got rid of it a jafra director who I got product from three years ago told me this. Laura I know you are passionate about this and I dont blame you from what you have experienced but I just cant buy that excuse that some women dont know the production requirements (and I know you are not implying this dont get me wrong) but I have heard people whine and complain and MOST of them were people who only held one skin care class or did nothing!!! When it comes to the Director thing I can see where you are coming from though. But even Directors explain this to me dont they go in knowing they have to keep up production or do you feel that they are led to believe that its going to be easier than what it is? I guess they see their National and they want to be like that and I cant blame them but you have to invest a LOT of time to get to that position and then going through NIQ must be interesting as well. Laura what kind of women do you think are the ones who are the most successful in MK? I really would like to know your perspective on the successful ones because to have TONS of directors under you takes more than just recruiting you have to maintain and I cant see things falling if someone is constantly lying
stephanie
Hi Steph...the income is flexible and it is hard...my point of inquiring was to pull people back to what the 98% is making and as you say, it's hard to determine since everyone does it differently....I just take exception to dangling the big checks without saying anything about expenses or people simply pointing to this or that National and what they are making. Recently, a director passed on an email saying a DIQ needed a housekeeper as she was wanting to do her DIQ quickly.
My deal with quotas is that we are told there are none when the marketing plan is presented......yet, the consultant then gets her case with all the info written....regarding directorship....unless a director tells you up front, the only place where the penalty for non-production for 2 months is written is the directors agreement which you sign AFTER you become a director (it's mailed later). In the 'fine print'...I think that should be in the ADVANCE BROCHURE and the ADVANCE BROCHURE which details many more things should be given to all consultants interested in moving up.
I think women who are successful in this business have passion, creativity, a TRUE DESIRE to want to help others and will put that as their primary purpose, honesty, integrity and are having plain old fun. I read about so many who felt it wasn't fun anymore and just spoke with a director dangling on the edge of losing her unit, but truly wanting the 'fun part back'. She'll be very sucessful and women such as Wendy, Bunny and a host of others who care about the enrichment of women's lives in more ways than just making their faces pretty, but by really, really caring and overcoming obstacles such those both you and Bunny have physically to think of others. That's a heart of gold. That spells success. Success to me is also having a ball at a class, a facial or just making someone smile and truly calling someone a friend who you met. When you work that way and not think about it as a 'numbers' game and give women the respect of answering any and all questions and presenting the opportunity with honesty and realism, I'd pretty much say anyone can be on their way. Success depends on you and success is defined by YOU.
I am soooo glad you wrote about your obstacle Stephanie, as Bunny said, you are an inspiration to many and my heart felt bad about my mistake earlier, but thank you for your forgiveness, I appreciate that. I think it's important to share stories like that. At Seminar a lady in a wheelchair zoomed out to get her Queen of Sales award, she gets it every year I hear. Cool.
Regarding the cars....not everyone reads the stuff and the maintenance requirements are more spelled out in the Car book, yet there is no where which co-paying the insurance is written. The car book comes after you earn the car. No mention, in writing, of a 1099 to the IRS either. I agree that if someone is doing nothing, they don't deserve a car.....but I've seen some who simply got tired of the incessant recruiting and gave up the car.....again, each has their own story. It is up to us to read the materials given, but in all the excitement, some dont. I was made aware of that by some consultants who, when I told about a qualification, or a rule, which was spelled out somewhere, acted as if I had just pulled a rabbit out of a hat and commented as if I had deceived them somehow. Most is written, but there are things that are not. For the former, there is no excuse, for the latter there is none either.
Regarding directorship......we are often told the hard part is over in DIQ and that 'it's worth it' when we finish, only to learn later that we have to do it again (DIQ)......again, for some it's easy, for some it's hard and when I became a director listening to the tapes the company sent, they acknowledged what I heard from inquiries at Seminar from other directors regarding the turnover in the unit.....10 are done, 10 are on their way out and a third of the other will work.....for some directors it is different....I've talked to enough to form my own conclusion tho. That stunk, but it was exactly what happened to my unit........so my advice is if you are building to director.....get hot dogs who are selling and teach them to do the tricks you are.....meaning being creative and enthusiastic. I threw in the towel as it were, call me a quitter, but enough was enough for me. I didn't want to 'press thru' any more, so I am done and I hope that with my story I could have touched even one woman's life and made it better by making her feel better as a person whether or not she stayed with MK.
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