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Hi Bunny Stephanie here - Listen when it comes to showing the commission checks I hate to speculate on this but whether its MK or any other company they HAVE to do that to show people the high end to get them interested. If they showed checks for 500.00 a month no one would get excited. I hate to talk about things like this because I know people feel differently about the methods that are used in recruiting but if you DONT show someone a car or a big check they are going to wonder what am I working for or what am I working towards? I hope you are understanding what Im saying. Being a director in MK is easy for some and difficult for others. If you like people or if you are charismatic, OR if you have plenty of booking sometimes those things (money and recruits) fall into your lap or shall I say it doesnt FEEL hard. I know you may find this hard to believe but my director DOES not hound people to place orders and she has maintained her grand prix and Cadillac for several years. She doesnt even call her existing customer base she is not even a Senior sales director and she does well. The Elite Executive and Executive Sales Directors are recruiting machines but some of them became that way because they got some Superstars. There have been many women in MK who passed their directors in production and sales so there is nothing holding anyone back. Its not the norm but there are consultants in the company who are outselling some directors there is a path that everyone can take and its up to them. By the way those figures I gave you when I was selling MK were before my accident not after now that Im walking again and active Im doing it again and Im building up a list of businesses to sell to. Next month Im working on recruiting so I can EARN the car. I like this company I really do another thing I wanted to mention is that the higher your order they give you bonus products. Getting back to the topic at hand I honestly see nothing wrong with showing high checks what I DO see wrong with it is making someone think that its easy and anyone who has been in sales would already know that. Someone who has not been in sales wouldnt. I must say the women in MK have been through all walks of life and Im totally amazed and what some of the TOP DIRECTORS used to do.....I have found the teachers do very well and women who had high level positions they see the business opportunity and usually do better than salespeople. Thats my take on it but when it comes to recruiting you have to find what that person wants flexibility, praise or whatever. MOST of the women come in for the money I dont care what anyone says.

Steph

Hi Stephanie,

Well, I suppose you're right ... most women probably do go into this, or any type of work, primarily for the money ... as it happens, I seem to have met more of those (few?) who were looking for something more, or something different ... you know, a way to make a decent living, yes, but with the emphasis on the decent, lol.

I've no doubt that what you say is true: I'm sure some women have found substantial, even remarkable, success in MK, with only a little effort; that can, and does, sometimes happen in most any line of work: for whatever reason, or reasons, for some people, it all just comes together, as if meant to be. The right person, at the right place, at the right time, in the right line of work ...

But the numbers would indicate that in MK, as in any other company/field of work, such a situation is not only not the norm, it's not typical, and perhaps not even common ... that's where I think the recruiting pitch ought to be adjusted, to be more realistic: I think it's fine to talk about what's possible, but many recruiters/directors make it sound as if anyone not having the ultra-success experience must be some kind of lazy loser-girl, lol.

And there's considerable evidence suggesting the prevalence, in MK, of a kind of emotional double-talk in both recruiting and unit meetings: MK is flexible, can be what you want/need it to be; whatever you do that suits you is fine; do a little/do a lot, go fast/go slow, put faith and your family ahead of your career ... BUT, at the same time, you've GOT to WORK your business; you're not SERIOUS (i.e. worth your director's time and attention) if you don't look, talk, dress, think, act the MK Way (and you'd better show up at MK functions, whether your family likes it or not); you need to keep those order levels up (if you don't, your director might miss production and lose her car, guiltguiltguilt); if your unit falters, that might make you, the director, miss production, and lose your car, so you feel pressured to pressure your unit members ... you know, all that back and to emotionally can be hard on people, I think especially on women, who tend to personalize work issues much more than do men.

None of this is to say that MK is unique in having some aspects to its conduct of business that could be substantially improved - what business doesn't? - but the emphasis on the uniquely MK notion of "constant positivity," at the expense of hard facts and clarity, really doesn't inspire sensible people, in the end - it just frustrates and exasperates them, and makes them wonder why a company would want its associates to behave in such an artificial manner.

All that aside, I'm so glad that you are again active, walking, recovering ... and, very best of luck to you as you go forward with recruiting and sales; I do hope a car is in your future, one way or another: I know an MK consultant who does just sales, no recruiting, and her MK profits pay her car payment; although, in her case she keeps a regular job, as well (a job she loves, actually, and that pays well, so that's doubly nice for her), relieving her of the benefits problem.

If you don't mind my asking, what do you mean when you say you're building a list of businesses to sell to? I'm probably just being dense here, but I don't quite get your meaning on that ...

Thanks again for all your patience and effort in posting information,

Bunny W - 19 Feb 2004

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